Comments on: Hijacking the Debate https://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/referendum/hijacking-the-debate/ Informing the Debate Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:37:23 +0000 hourly 1 By: Henri Van der Stighelen https://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/referendum/hijacking-the-debate/#comment-8915 Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:50:49 +0000 http://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/referendum/?p=789#comment-8915 If anyone can be accused of hijacking the debate it must be Alex Salmond. Don’t get me wrong, I admire Alex and greatly respect his achievement in securing a referendum. Whether it is naivety or cunning, but Alex has blatantly promoted the Yes campaign in terms of SNP policy. I am thinking specifically of his wish to remain in the EC, share the pound and scrap Trident. Clearly, these matters are for the electorate in the 2016 Scottish election. I am a dedicated ‘out of the EC’ campaigner, indeed I am a certified UKIP candidate and stood in the Ilford ward in 2010, despite being an immigrant Belgian. I am opposed to the removal of Trident, our greatest bargaining chip and I frankly don’t care whether we share the pound or launch the ‘wee bobbee’. If the BoE doubled the base lending rate, mortgages on average would increase from 4 to 4 1/2%. Scotland has had no more say over BoE policy than influence on Westminster policy in 60 years. Despite the above I am a passionate and active Yes campaigner. My greatest fear at this stage is that in his haste to promote SNP 2016 pledges Alex ostracises those Scots who wish to vote Yes but have no wish to vote SNP. In effect, Alex could cost us the referendum – by which token his pledges will be seen to be rejected by the Scottish people. blog bighvan.com for a slightly satirical view on the referendum

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By: Gordon Jackson https://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/referendum/hijacking-the-debate/#comment-8288 Sun, 23 Feb 2014 20:35:01 +0000 http://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/referendum/?p=789#comment-8288 I can’t really go along with the main conclusion here. If any state did come out and say they were opposed to EU membership in principle then it would create a number of problems. First, it would be seen as foreign intervention in a domestic debate. Most governments aren’t willing to do that because it crosses the boundaries of national sovereignty. Second, it would risk provoking domestic issues where governments (such as Spain, Cyprus, Greece) are dealing with problems of internal cohesion.

A third issue is that Scotland joining the EU would be subject to a negotiation, and there’s usually no justification for ruling outcomes out before a negotiation has begun. Last, even if a state did make this argument it almost certainly wouldn’t be accepted by the Yes side. When Rajoy simply implied that Scotland would have to renegotiate membership (rather than “negotiating from within”) he was derided by the Yes campaign and Spain was generally written off as a scaremongering foreign power that had no right trying to interfere in a Scottish issue.

What bothers me about the EU issue isn’t so much whether Scotland would or wouldn’t be allowed in the EU. It’s pretty clear that Scotland could become an EU member eventually – Barroso implied this as well. The issue is really about how long the transition would take and what the membership terms would be. Much like the currency debate, we seem to have lurched into a kind of extreme binary conception of the problem – “in or out of the EU, with or without the pound” – which obscures all of the details that actually determine what’s in our interest: e.g. the status of the rebate, the status of our hotchpotch of opt outs in EU Justice and Home Affairs measures, fishing quotas, and so on.

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