Scotland wouldn’t be out of security loop

Dr. Andrew Neal, University of Edinburgh

Dr. Andrew Neal, University of Edinburgh

The Home Secretary is disingenuous to claim that an independent Scotland would be left out of the loop on our island’s security, writes Dr Andrew Neal in the 12 November 2013 edition of The Scotsman.

Theresa May’s Scotland Analysis: Security paper, published recently, is two things: factual and political. Factually, it is a comprehensive inventory of the UK national security architecture. Politically, it is an opening gambit. It sets out the negotiating position of the British government in the event of a Yes vote, stating that an independent Scotland would be excluded from the existing architecture and could not possibly share it. The paper says that apart from its strong capabilities in policing, an independent Scotland would have to start from scratch.

As a reference document, the analysis paper is a fantastic resource for anyone wanting to understand the nuts and bolts of UK security governance. The problem is that the UK and Scottish governments are playing a disingenuous game of security politics with each other and with us.

The UK government says that an independent Scotland would be out in the cold. This does not fit with the realities of our shared island and its integrated infrastructure. Take the claim that an independent Scotland would be excluded from UK cybersecurity. We have an integrated telecommunications network with UK-wide service providers. Unless someone constructs a great firewall of Scotland – Hadrian’s firewall perhaps – that is not going to change. Independence or not, Scottish cybersecurity is UK cybersecurity. GCHQ has deals with communications companies for network access, which are among their most prized assets and closely guarded secrets. They are not going to tear these up.

To exclude Scotland from the national security architecture would go against the interests and tendencies of the security services. From what we have learnt in recent press about their political influence and boundless urge for expansion, they will lobby hard not to relinquish their reach over the northern third of the Great Britain.

For example, we know from the Edward Snowden revelations that the natural tendency of GCHQ is to extend its capabilities. From its station at Bude in Cornwall it monitors communications data from across Europe and Asia as it leaves the continent for America. The Snowden papers also suggest that GCHQ works closely with the intelligence services of European partners to share technology and data, and helps them stretch the interpretation of legal restrictions to make this possible.

With this in mind, it is hard to imagine GCHQ closing its ears to what happens in Scotland. If civil libertarians see independence as an opportunity for Scotland to distance itself from the perceived surveillance state that is emerging in the UK, they can forget it. Popping over the Border from Carlisle to Gretna for a bit of data privacy is not going to happen.

When the capabilities of the security services have been challenged, the intelligence community has lobbied hard to keep them. Scottish independence would be no different. For example, the three main Westminster parties were until recently committed to changing the law to allow intercept material as evidence in court. Allegedly, to prevent this, GCHQ deployed sympathetic figures such as the former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation Lord Carlile to successfully turn the argument in their favour.

History shows that what the security services want, they get. Somewhat wise after the fact, David Blunkett said last week that when the security services tell the government that something needs to be done, it takes a brave minister to say no. Harold Macmillan wrote in his autobiography that ministers and even prime ministers are disadvantaged amateurs against the specialised security claims of the professional intelligence community. This will be as true for Alex Salmond is it was for him. The intelligence community will have persuasive words behind closed doors north and south of any new Border.

Arguments against security are difficult to win, and that is probably why the SNP has not tried to make them. Arguing for reduced security measures depends on the unprovable claim that the threat has decreased. The cost of getting it wrong would be terminal to any political career.

Arguing for increased security only needs to be justified against hypothetical worst-case scenarios; no proof required. There is little political cost in getting it wrong other than being labelled authoritarian. Being tougher on terrorism than the other side is a well-worn political strategy anyway. The security analysis paper hangs on a version of this thin but irrefutable reasoning: if the worst has happened in other small European countries, and then it could happen in Scotland.

The only SNP security policy we have at the moment is a bland statement that Scotland will have arrangements that are “proportionate and fit for purpose”. Like every other question ever asked about independence, from dividing up the state-owned banks to Alex Salmond’s shoe size, we expect this to be addressed in the fabled white paper on 26 November.

In the meantime, the SNP has implicitly accepted that its proposed 18-month transition from referendum to independence is not enough time to set up a new Scottish national security architecture. Nicola Sturgeon, in her evidence to the foreign affairs committee in January, suggested that an independent Scotland would expect some help from the UK security services to get its own arrangements up and running, and even for Scotland to stay in the intelligence loop. The response from the intelligence community has been “don’t bet on it”, but again this is disingenuous.

The politics of security and the facts on the ground mean that Scotland and the UK will remain security bedfellows. The UK will be compelled to keep an independent Scotland in the security fold. An independent Scotland will be compelled to stay there. It is in none of their interests to allow the merest perception of a Scottish “weak link” to take hold. All sides have said that security is the first responsibility of government. They will be held to this. It won’t be easy for Alex Salmond to tell a post-independence Scotland that “help” from the UK means that GCHQ is still listening.

Andrew Neal is working on a book on parliamentary security politics. He is principal convenor of the ESRC seminar series ‘Security in Scotland, with or without constitutional change’. His most recent book is “Exceptionalism and the politics of counter-terrorism: liberty, security and the war on terror” (Routledge 2010). His research sits between international relations theory, political theory, sociology and security studies. He is particularly poststructural, critical, and sociological approaches to security; and the work and reception of Carl Schmitt and Michel Foucault in IR and security studies.

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Event: Welfare in a New Scotland

5millquestionsA 5 Million Questions event will seek to examine the issue of what will, and should, become of welfare provision in Scotland in the event of a ‘Yes’ vote in the independence referendum in autumn 2014. And, just as importantly, what will happen if the referendum result is a ‘no’ vote.

Join a panel of welfare experts, organisations and MSPs to discuss the issues of the welfare system, examining what could happen in the event of a yes or a no vote in 2014.

  • Mary Kinninmonth, Citizens Advice Bureau
  • John Dickie – Child Action Poverty Group
  • Michael McMahon MSP
  • Shona Robison MSP
  • Nicola McEwen, University of Edinburgh
  • Susan Dalgety, Chair

Tickets are available online, or at the Central Library reception.

http://5mqwelfaredebate.eventbrite.co.uk

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Independence in Europe

Dr Luis Moreno

Dr Luis Moreno

Luis Moreno addresses the impact that Scotland’s Referendum could have on European political culture. 

Following the anti-climax of the 1979 Referendum results, the nationalist camp viewed Scotland’s political future inexorably linked to the formation of a fully-fledged sovereign state. “Independence, nothing less” was the uncompromising demand voiced against ‘no-mandate’ UK Governments. Thatcher interpreted the outcome of the referendum as if Scotland’s aspirations for home rule were just a ‘dead duck’, which the passing of time would help bury without any special ceremony. In the 1980s, nationalist predicament was significantly modified by accepting a higher degree of gradualism in the achievement of self-government. A wider cosmopolitan view was encapsulated in the SNP’s new motto, “Independence in Europe”. The achievement of the ‘Norwegian Dream’, by which a wealthy oil-producer country could preserve a generous universal welfare state along the lines of ‘small is beautiful’, gave way to the idea of participating actively in the building of a united Europe, while maintaining the claim of independence for the running of Scottish affairs.

We certainly know that political union in the Old Continent is not to follow the American model of centralised federalism. Despite the normative insistence of the neo-functionalist school of thought, the establishment of the United States of Europe is out of the question. It is also highly unlikely that Continental Europe would follow the prescription put forward by Winston Churchill in his celebrated Zurich speech in 1946. According to his proposals, there should be a European Federation in a superpower configuration of world politics, alongside with other leading actors such as the USA (‘mighty America’), Russia and imperial Britain (and Scotland within it). Time will tell if such arrangement could ever materialise after the celebration of Britain’s referendum on Europe, as promised by the inheritors of Churchill’s views in the current UK Cabinet.

Developments around the turn of the millennium, and particularly since the 2007 financial crisis, have dramatically exposed the limitations of the nation-state as a ‘sovereign’ actor in global economics. Models of British ‘command-and-control’ majoritarian democracy, as well as of Jacobin vertical diffusionism of power, seem to be in terminal retreat. The on-going re-scaling of nation-state structures and political organization is in line with Europe’s principle of territorial subsidiarity. Processes of rescaling and ‘unbundling of territoriality’ are having a direct impact on citizens’ living standards. This crucial tenet of Europeanization establishes that policy decision-making should be located at the level closest to the citizen. In other words, the purpose of subsidiarity is to limit the power of central authorities by assuming the criteria of “proximity” and “proportionality”. Subsidiarity aims to provide a protective measure against over-expansion of European control in matters resting upon the jurisdiction and prerogatives of each layer of government in a multi-tiered Europe. It also encourages co-ordination to manage growing interdependencies.

Territorial subsidiarity goes hand in hand with the second guiding principle of Europeanization: democratic accountability. There cannot be any further development of politics in Europe if decisions are taken behind-closed-doors, as happens in our often opaque state-centred polities. Democratic participation and citizens’ involvement in public life is quintessential to the very preservation of the European social model, if this is to be preserved vis-à-vis re-commodified individualization or neo-slavery systems of economic growth.

In any post-Referendum scenario, Scottish voters will be regarded as political innovators. 

Indeed, the holding of the 2014 Referendum on Scotland’s Independence provides a formidable opportunity to comply with both European principles. They could set the pace and the tone in the institutionalization of the European ‘political animal’. In any post-Referendum scenario, Scottish voters will be regarded as political innovators. They would make a far-reaching impact if a majority of them –or a near majority for that matter– decide to vote for independence in Europe.

Luis Moreno is the Research Professor (Spanish National Research Council, CSIC) and is currently a Honorary Fellow at the University of Edinburgh. 

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News Round-up: Views from Abroad

internationalperspectivesCoree Brown rounds up coverage of Scotland’s referendum in the international press. 

The Wall Street Journal covers First Minister Alex Salmond’s trade visit to China, noting that while China has adopted a zero tolerance party on autonomist movements within its own borders, it has ‘nothing against whisky-toting separatists who annoy only foreign governments’.

An editorial in the Montreal Gazette reflects on the Parti Quebecois’ response to the federal Clarity Act. Bill 99 asserts that Quebec can unilaterally separate on the basis of a 50% plus one referendum, with a question chosen by the Quebecois government. The editor argues that Scotland’s referendum should be held as a model for future votes on independence, with a clear question agreed upon by both sides rather than a referendum held without extensive consultation of both sides.

In the New York Times, Parag Khanna reflects on the Alternative Worlds report, published by the United States National Intelligence Council in 2013. The report discussed the possibility of a ‘Nonstate World’ in 2013, a scenario in which traditional states were subsumed by global and economic forces. He discusses this scenario in light of the rise of cities and their mayors as well as nationalist movements in Western Europe as well as Asia and the Middle East.

Writing in The Herald, David Leask provides insight into the Scottish referendum from the perspective of Quebec. He notes that internationally, Scotland’s vote is increasingly being framed as a contrast between a social democratic Scotland and a neo-liberal England.

Coree Brown is a PhD student in Politics at the University of Edinburgh.

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Carving out a Scottish Identity

Professor Tom Devine

Professor Tom Devine, University of Edinburgh

Writing in the Scotsman, Tom Devine discusses the historical evolution of the Scottish identity, noting that polls don’t reflect the nuanced and dual nature of Scottish and British identity, one that emerged in the Victorian era.

The recent analysis of the census figures on Scottish national identity prompted some dramatic headlines. It was reported that the majority of people living in Scotland now said their national identity was “Scottish only”. Indeed, it was suggested that 62 per cent said they felt “Scottish only” with a mere 18 per cent describing themselves as both Scottish and British. Nationalists applauded this positive news while Unionists asserted that many Scots were still basically British at heart.

The difficulty is that the data on which these claims and counter-claims are made rests on “evidence” from the census which needs to be taken with a powerful dose of salt. The key weakness lies in the census question which asked: “What do you feel about your national identity?” This was then followed by six boxes to be ticked in response – Scottish, English, Welsh, Northern Irish, British and Other.

The problem is that from the late 18th century Scots, who were citizens of a historic nation, albeit a stateless one after 1707, developed a dual identity, a complex mix of Scottishness and Britishness which has endured to a greater or lesser extent to the present day. In the Victorian era and during and after the Second World War, Britishness was in the ascendancy. More recently, however, Scottishness has become much more dominant.Nonetheless, there is little sign in all poll results, apart that is from the information in the 2011 census, that the dual identity has finally been shattered. If it was, Scotland would almost certainly vote for independence next September.Yet the opinion polls still confirm that the preferred option for the majority of the electorate remains enhanced devolution with the United Kingdom. This indicates not the end of the hybrid identity but its elasticity, even at a time of a much deeper sense of Scottishness than before.

The census question, however is set in such an “either/or” fashion that it cannot capture the full complexities of duality.That is why social scientists have tended to use another approach to measure these subtleties. In 1986, a Spanish scholar named Luis Morena, who took his doctorate at the University of Edinburgh, introduced what became known as the “Moreno question”. Rather than one or two options to trace the meaning of Scottish identity, Moreno suggested five categories: only Scottish, not British; more Scottish than British; equally Scottish as British; more British than Scottish; and only British, not Scottish.

Future historians of the post-referendum period will therefore look back on 2014 either as the year the old duality finally fragmented or the time it demonstrated yet again its capacity for survival in changing circumstances.

The Moreno question has stood the test of time and is accepted by academics as the best guide to changes in Scottish national identity. For instance, using the question in a survey in June this year, Ipsos MORI Scotland showed that the group of crucial importance to both nationalists and unionists in the build up to the 2014 referendum were those who described themselves as more Scottish than British, though not exclusively Scottish. It was found that attitudes towards independence were finely balanced among this group who regard themselves as principally Scottish but who have also retained a continuing sense of Britishness. Of them, 45 per cent oppose independence, 35 per cent support it and 12 per cent remain undecided. An estimated third of the adult population is to be found within the group, a proportion which has been relatively stable over the last decade or so. They are the voters which both sides need to win over to be assured of victory in the referendum campaign.

The origins of this peculiar dual identity lie in the later 18th century. Scotland was in the early stages of an economic revolution which eventually transformed the nation into one of the most industrialised on earth. Aspiring Scots were making their mark on the British Empire as merchants, administrators, military officers, physicians, professors and much else. The Union finally seemed to be providing material benefit to the Scottish people. England and Scotland also became closer as Protestant nations engaged in a titanic conflict with Catholic France, the European superpower of the day, during the Napoleonic Wars.

Yet several Scottish intellectuals feared the “death of Scotland” at this time as Britishness became ever more influential and potent. They sensed the military, economic and cultural power of England and contended that Scotland might face a future as “North Britain”. After all, the Scottish landed elites were now beginning to send their sons to English public schools and Oxford and Cambridge. Several of the most eminent figures of the Scottish Enlightenment gloried in the “civilising” effect of the English connection and looked forward to “compleating (sic) the Union”. As William Robertson, the great historian and principal of the University of Edinburgh, had put it in the 1750s, “The Union will make us one people”.

William Wallace was a national icon in the age of high unionism because, so it was argued, he had helped save Scotland from English conquest and so paved the way for ‘a union of equals’ in 1707.

The thinkers, however, were proven wrong in their predictions. Instead, what emerged by the Victorian era was the new dual identity of Scottishness and Britishness. Scottishness was resilient. Scotland was an ancient nation which had long developed beliefs, stories, myths, songs and hero figures which ensured a strong sense of national identity that transcended but did not eliminate the country’s equally important regional and local identities. The Union itself, despite the adjective “incorporating” often attached to it, also maintained those powerful organs of civil society, the presbyterian church and private law within the union state.

The radical scale and speed of the country’s economic revolution soon inspired a voracious appetite for nostalgia for an older Scotland among the middle classes to which the inventors of tradition and myth-makers, led by the peerless Sir Walter Scott, responded enthusiastically in song, story and poetry. New hero figures embodying Scottish values emerged, none more important than Robert Burns, soon to be joined by the most famous Scotsman of the nineteenth century, David Livingstone. Old heroes were reinvented for new times. Thus William Wallace was a national icon in the age of high unionism because, so it was argued, he had helped save Scotland from English conquest and so paved the way for ‘a union of equals’ in 1707.

What becomes clear is that the new markers of identity cemented a sense of Scottishness but not at the expense of threatening the union with England on which Victorians assumed the prosperity of the nation depended. Thus, as one scholar has argued, as Scotland feared assimilation to England, it looked to the Highlands to project a distinctive identity.But this Highlandism was complementary to the Union as the kilted warriors of the Scottish regiments became the martial icons of the British Empire.

The dual identity from then to this point, was never static, but constantly renewed and its markers reinvented for new times in the 20th century. Future historians of the post-referendum period will therefore look back on 2014 either as the year the old duality finally fragmented or the time it demonstrated yet again its capacity for survival in changing circumstances.

Tom Devine is personal senior research professor of History in the University of Edinburgh and author of bestselling books on Scotland’s history, identity, and diaspora. This piece appeared in the 3 October 2013 edition of the Scotsman and is republished with the author’s permission.

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Event: The Welfare State & Employee Rights

The Welfare State & Employee Rights: Defining the Scottish Approach
21 November, 7:00pm – 8:30pm
University of Edinburgh
Seminar rooms 1 & 2, Chrystal MacMillan building

The Academy of Government, in Association with the Fabian Society, is hosting a Scottish Fabian Seminar.

Speakers include:

  • Sheila Gilmore, MP
  • Dave Moxham, Chair, STUC
  • Dr Ingela Nauman, Senior Lecturer, Social Policy

When it comes to welfare & the constitutional debate a great number of questions are yet to be answered. How can we address poverty & deprivation in a modern & progressive Scotland, ensuring the rights of working people are adequately protected in the tumultuous economic climate? Could the post referendum landscape see us doing things differently? Do our attitudes to welfare as a society in Scotland really differ from those south of the border?

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Event: The Case for Left Wing Nationalism by Stephen Maxwell

LeftwingLuath Press and the Institute of Governance are pleased to invite you to the launch of The Case for Left Wing Nationalism by Stephen Maxwell, edited by Jamie Maxwell, with a foreword by Tom Nairn.

New College, 1 Mound Place, Edinburgh, EH1 2LU on Wednesday 30 October at 5:45pm for 6pm, followed by a reception at 7pm. Wine and light refreshments will be served.

The event will be chaired by David McCrone and introduced by Jamie Maxwell. Speakers will include Owen Dudley Edwards, Margo MacDonald, Robin McAlpine, Joyce McMillan and Andy Wightman, followed by time for Q&A, comments and discussion.

All welcome. Entry is free. Places may be reserved via Eventbrite 
or email events@luath.co.uk

A map showing New College is at http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/divinity/map (enter through main entrance on Mound Place and proceed to doorway on right hand side courtyard opposite John Knox statue).

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Event: The Fiscal Implications of an Independent Scotland

18 November 2013, 09:30 – 12:30

Royal College of Surgeons, Nicolson Street, Edinburgh, EH8 9DW

This event, organised by the Institute of Fiscal Studies, will see the launch of the first long term fiscal projections for an independent Scotland. This new research, which is part of a project funded by the Economic and Social Research Council on the Future of the UK and Scotland, will use information on demographic trends, tax revenues and spending patterns to look at fiscal scenarios for Scotland and the UK over the next fifty years and their sensitivity of the projections to key assumptions over long-term growth, the cost of government borrowing and the level of net migration. The event will provide a clear illustration of the fiscal pressures facing an independent Scotland, how these are similar to, and different from, those facing the rest of the UK, and the options available to an independent Scotland to achieve fiscal sustainability.

Other presentations will focus on tax and spending as we aim to clarify some of the fiscal opportunities and constraints that would face Scotland were it to become independent.

This event will take place in Symposium Hall (King Khalid Building), the Royal College of Surgeons, Edinburgh. Registration will take place between 09:30 and 10:00 and the event is expected to conclude by 12:30. A sandwich lunch will follow and delegates will have the opportunity to meet the research team.

Further information and booking details can be found on the IFS website

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Why Scotland is More than Capable of Defending Itself

Colin Fleming, University of Edinburgh

Colin Fleming, University of Edinburgh

In this article, first published in The Sunday Herald , Colin Fleming challenges the argument presented in a recent UK Government report that an independent Scotland would be unable to deliver the same defence and security provisions as currently enjoyed by the UK

On Tuesday morning [8 October] the Secretary of State for Defence, Philip Hammond, launched the UK Government’s Defence report on Scottish Independence.

This is the latest of its Scotland analysis papers, which the UK Government has produced to put forward its case for maintaining the political status quo, but it is an increasingly salient issue in the referendum debate.

The matter of defence is especially important, being traditionally understood as the cornerstone of state responsibility.

Drawing on the UK’s global role, the main theme of the report is that an independent Scotland would not be able to deliver the same spectrum of defence provision as enjoyed by the UK and thus be unable to fully participate in global affairs.

In fact, it goes as far as to argue that following independence Scotland would not have the same influence on international affairs as it does as part of the UK. It also explicitly states that Scotland’s security would be diminished by independence, and makes the case that Scotland enjoys the safeguards provided by the “integrated” spectrum of forces currently provided as part of the Union.

Boiled down, the report offers an absolutist perspective on military power as a way of delimiting that outlined so far by the SNP and Scottish Government.

Of course, the Scottish Government will have to articulate how it will ensure Scotland’s security in the event of independence, but voters might ask why Scotland would be unable to provide defence and security at least as well as the UK.

voters might ask why Scotland would be unable to provide defence and security at least as well as the UK

The report’s identification of the UK global role and integrated defence is at least questionable. On the question of whether Scotland has international influence as part of the UK, it is correct that devolution has allowed Scotland to take on an international role (not least in Malawi). However, Scotland’s ability to act independently is limited and the idea that an independent Scottish state would somehow have less influence than presently seems particularly specious.

Regardless of whether one supports independence or not, most Scots are likely to feel uncomfortable with the idea that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are good examples of Scotland’s international influence, with the obvious riposte being that only with independence would Scotland have the powers to decide whether it takes part in these types of military operations.

Building on this argument, the report goes on to explain the integrated nature of defence across the UK, to the extent that Scotland could not expect to inherit Scots regiments and military assets. Like other aspects of the paper the rationale is clear, yet again, as the idea that Scotland would somehow not be entitled to its fair share of defence assets is unrealistic at best.

As the report makes clear, there are substantial assets existing in Scotland and it would not be unreasonable that an independent Scottish Government would expect to inherit its fair share. Indeed, the suggestion that the UK forces are so integrated that Scottish assets could not be disentangled begs the question as to how it has been possible for the MoD to restructure the armed forces, resulting in major redundancies in the process.

The report provides no information on possible defence co-operation between the UK and Scotland should there be a Yes vote, despite being asked to consider this issue in a recent Defence Committee report.

The issues regarding recruitment and defence jobs are as equally problematic for the UK as they would necessarily be for a new Scottish state. Yes, Scotland would need to ensure that it is able to recruit and retain personnel, but the argument that it would not be able to provide opportunities to new recruits is overplayed. Involved in constant, major, military operations for more than 10 years, the MoD’s own performance reports demonstrate the difficulty it has retaining service personnel.

The consequence of such poor retention rates has resulted in further pressure on personnel, with more time spent on operation than military guidelines stipulate.

Exacerbated recently by changes to military pensions, there has been an erosion in the Military Covenant that the paper is so keen to highlight. The paper’s use of a 2007 Rand publication may not paint the most accurate picture of whether a career in the forces is as appealing. Indeed, if the Scottish Government can provide assurances on pay and conditions, the UK’s argument that Scotland will have a fatal recruitment shortfall could be proven wrong. In terms of defence jobs, Scotland might not enjoy the economies of scale as that of the UK, but the internationalisation of defence industries has become normal and it is probable that Scotland would be able to maintain jobs in that sector. Omitting to explain its recent defence cuts in Scotland, and how these have impacted on communities, like other areas of the report the UK Government glosses over a great many issues. Whether the long-awaited Scottish Government White Paper is able to better answer the defence question is yet to be seen.

This article was originally published in The Sunday Herald on 13 October 2013

Dr Colin Fleming is Research Fellow at the Scottish Centre for Constitutional Change at the University of Edinburgh

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Event: Challenges to Campaigning

teens talkingChallenges to Campaigning: Examining the Challenges Election Campaigning Faces Today

Friday, October 18, 2013 – 10:30 to 17:00
Informatics Forum, University of Edinburgh

One-day mini conference bringing together a range of PhD and early career researchers, established academics, and practitioners to examine the challenges facing election campaigns today and how they can remain relevant and effective in the Twenty First Century, particularly amongst our youngest electors. The conference includes an roundtable session on Campaigning in the referendum on Scottish independence.

Attendance is free. Sign up at: https://challengestocampaigning.eventbrite.co.ukteens talking

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